Funkybot wrote:First off, Fxpansion created Guru along with Devine Machine (who also own the name Guru from what Angus has said elsewhere), hence why there wasn't a Guru 2. It's not up to Fxpansion.
Now lets look at this in a rational way...what exactly are you mad about?
Does Geist open Guru presets? Yes (Guru original factory content needs to be resaved first, but any Guru 1.5 or later content opens directly in Geist).
Does Geist improve upon Guru in just about every way possible? Yes.
Is there an upgrade price from Guru to Geist? Yes.
Is Geist essentially Guru 2? One can certainly look at it at that way, but it's also a complete rewrite of the code.
If there had been a Guru 2, would there have been an upgrade price? You can bet their would have been, and if I had to speculate, I'd guess it would have been the same cost as the Guru to Geist upgrade. Any major upgrade is going to involve an upgrade fee. The developers need to eat too.
Does Geist include all new content that can be used along with the original Guru content? It sure does (you can even load Geist hits/loops in Guru if you were so inclined).
Would having Geist mean you couldn't use Guru anymore? No it would not.
Are there still a few things Guru could do, that Geist cannot? A few, and Fxpansion has already stated that they plan to address most (if not all) in future updates.
Did you, as a Guru customer, get screwed in any way? Nope. You still have Guru, and you can upgrade to Geist (at a reduced price) if you want to continue in that lineage.
If you're mad about the time it took you to learn Guru, then just demo Geist. A lot of what you're familiar with from Guru applies to Geist, only you'll find Giest is much more intuitive in it's use.
CALVIN01 wrote:and you guys are finding you can work as quickly with it than you can with your d.a.w?.im finding things tedious in comparison.
CALVIN01 wrote:bouncing around the pages to do eq'ing,filtering,adsr and then effects per sound whilst trying to balance it all.geist is fun i know but are you guys making sonically good mixdowns with it as quickly as you can with your d.a.w.i use geist as a vst for mainly drums and rarely use it standalone.at the moment i can get better results more quickly using drum racks or impulse in ableton.i liked how quick and simple in design guru was.i know geist is more than capable of this which is why im sticking with it.
the weird thing is i bought it after demoing it.
tell me im wrong and give me a few pointers guys
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