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mixing in hihats-are they really that loud in a mix?

Postby Jason Brian Merill » Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:08 pm

I am having trouble feeling that hihats are natural, and in the mix - in BFD3. it seems that the hihat is SUPER loud in the mix all the time - I am always bringing it down, but then it seems direct and close, instead of a bit distant and washy...

I am not exactly sure what it's "supposed" to sound like anymore.. lol.

I am looking to go for a "recorded album" sound - not electronica, for instance... at least with this.

I find the presets are pretty hi-hat heavy
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Postby bashmentality » Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:38 pm

Try using only small amounts of the direct mic (or not use it at all) and get most of the hats trough the OHs and room mics. I also found that the shank articulations are overly load compared to the tip - at least on the bosporus. You can bring these down using the articulation trim if you need to. The right level of the hats in a mix will largely depend on the other instruments as well.
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Postby jord » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:06 pm

Presets should only be used as a jumping off point. They don't eliminate the need to fine tune the mix. As was previously stated, how they will sound in a mix is directly related to the rest of the instruments in the mix. For example, the hats may seems louder in your mix because perhaps the guitars are not competing with them in the frequency range.

As was mentioned, reduce the direct channel and adjust your ambients to get the result you're looking for.

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Postby Jason Brian Merill » Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:35 pm

I guess I am just picturing the presets being a start off point from how a drumkit would sound - not necessarily in the mix.

the hihats sometimes sound detached for me... trying to work on that.
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Postby jord » Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:25 pm

Anytime you need some perspective as far a mix goes, there's plenty of people here that are always willing to lend an ear if you're willing to let us listen. :)

Sometimes, it's easier when we're able to hear what's happening.

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